Posts by life is to short

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Adult survivor of sexual abuse as a child

by life is to short in

i showed the video from the midweek meeting of september 12th to my counselor to get her take on it.

she said that it clearly was a propaganda video and was appalled that it was shown to an audience that had small children in it.

she said that they could have been way more generic in their way of portraying the women as having been abused.. the subject of sexual abuse and the way the video zeroed in on it would have small children asking questions that really did not need to be addressed.

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Yes Stuckinarut

No mention made of getting real help just pioneer for 12 years to drag people into the cult and go swimming. Yep that will do it or and also get invited to get together's. Funny I never get invited to do things even when I was pioneering, etc.

I just had an elder tell me I need to break break with the elder's who were allowing child molesters to hold and take care of children in the hall. Really now I need to break bread with them, accept them because they did not know way, way, way, way, back in 2007 and 2008 that child molester really should not hold and take care of kids, Seriously I kid you not I was just told that two weeks ago and that they had to get direction from Bethel on how to handle it.

OMG if grown men do not know that a man who rapped a 8 year old child should not hold and take care of children what are they doing as elder?

Funny thing is I did break bread with them over and over and over only at my home NEVER at their's and I stopped because I cannot break bread with people who are so stupid. When I told the elder that he said well you are more hospitable then they are. THEY ARE ELDERS, IS THAT NOT A REQUIREMENT ELDER'S!

I just makes my head explode.

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Can a full healing from cult ever be accomplished

by Chook in

can all indoctrination leave a person , or does it linger in background till death..

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Spot on flipper! Loved you answer.

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Adult survivor of sexual abuse as a child

by life is to short in

i showed the video from the midweek meeting of september 12th to my counselor to get her take on it.

she said that it clearly was a propaganda video and was appalled that it was shown to an audience that had small children in it.

she said that they could have been way more generic in their way of portraying the women as having been abused.. the subject of sexual abuse and the way the video zeroed in on it would have small children asking questions that really did not need to be addressed.

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Thanks Xanthippe

Yes it there was a thread about it. You can watch the video yourself if you want to by going to the JWorg web sight and viewing the meeting part for the week starting the 12 of this month. I am not good at linking it to my post I know some do but I do not know how to do that.

The video made me so depressed as it is not in the least what I expreanced in the hall I went to. We had 3 child molesters in the hall and the CO at the time told me I had no chose but to work with them DTD as my husband was an elder.

I have thrown a fit over it and I brought it up and up and up and out of the blue after 8 years of not attending meeting an elder called up mad at me. Well anyway long story short I met just a couple of weeks ago with the current CO and he told me I never ever, ever had to work with the child molesters and all I had to do was to tell the CO I am nothing but a volunteer.

Really good to know expect nothing is in print expect that you must obey the elders no matter what, so when an elder demands you take a child molester DTD if you are even lucky to know that they are a pedophile and then he yells at you for not obeying him are you seriously supposed to tell the elder hey I am just a volunteer.

Crazy and so maddening

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Adult survivor of sexual abuse as a child

by life is to short in

i showed the video from the midweek meeting of september 12th to my counselor to get her take on it.

she said that it clearly was a propaganda video and was appalled that it was shown to an audience that had small children in it.

she said that they could have been way more generic in their way of portraying the women as having been abused.. the subject of sexual abuse and the way the video zeroed in on it would have small children asking questions that really did not need to be addressed.

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I showed the video from the midweek meeting of September 12th to my counselor to get her take on it. She said that it clearly was a propaganda video and was appalled that it was shown to an audience that had small children in it. She said that they could have been way more generic in their way of portraying the women as having been abused.

The subject of sexual abuse and the way the video zeroed in on it would have small children asking questions that really did not need to be addressed. It would have been OK for an adult only audience and even at that why were they making such a point in a meeting that in all honestly is supposed to be about helping it's members be better at field service.

She said it just made no sense but that it was propaganda to make it look like they have it all under control and that they are indeed helping victims, which is clearly not the case as I am going to her for my trauma of being abused.

Just thought that was an interesting take from someone outside the JW world.

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Easier to be a JW now?

by Xanthippe in

reading konceptual's account of talking to cart 'witnesses' and it reminded me that when we left in '89 we thought the religion would do one of two things.

get more hardline, consequently lose members and eventually come to an end in some way.

or ease up on the members, fewer rules, less fs time, less meetings, just to keep them in.. all the recent apostate stuff, treatment of dfed kids and the hardline attitude to people who leave or try to fade has confused me, made me think they are harder on the r+f., but i don't think this is true.

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As far as the meetings themselves it is easier but the threat of being DF'ed I feel is greater and that there is way more judgment going on between the ones left in plus there are a ton of those who are on medication for depression.

Through I have not read the others comments so this just just my two cents worth.

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Do not enjoy life now!

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ok so i was stupid and looked at the text for today, i do not know why i did it.

i lost a couple of brain cells and put myself into an even deeper depression over it.

it was just that my husband had it out and i thought what can it hurt, wondering what they are up to.

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OK so I was stupid and looked at the text for today, I do not know why I did it. I lost a couple of brain cells and put myself into an even deeper depression over it. It was just that my husband had it out and I thought what can it hurt, wondering what they are up to. It was crazy moment of insanity that I have lived to regret today.

They are still drilling into everyone so not enjoy life, here is the part that got to me so much

("How we cherish our privilege of working with our God in these last days! Thus, we should be willing to postpone the pursuit of many of our personal interests, knowing that in his new world, Jehovah will allow us to enjoy “the real life”—everlasting life in happy, peaceful conditions.")

I have just been supper depressed after seeing that, seriously they are still doing it, telling everyone not to enjoy life. I listened and obeyed and they stole my life, I get it that I let them but they used this same line when I was a young person and they are still going at it. It just makes me so sick.

Note to self never, never, never read the text again.

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When you were fully in, did you believe that you would not die?

by TTWSYF in

i know that it must seem silly to ask, but my brother and his family think that the big a will arrive before they die.

i tried to explain to my brother that everyone else who has ever lived in the past has died and only jesus has [physically] rose from the dead.. it is amazing that anyone could buy that line.

what crazy cult culture that could make people believe such nonsense?!.

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Magmun when you said these words it really hit home for me The irony is that I looked at some of my non-JW peers who were living life to the full, and I thought they were getting just a few years, whereas, I would have eternity. It turns out, though, that not only will I not have eternity, but I was robbed of even the few years that my peers had.

All day I have been thinking of what a waste my life has been, I do not know why but sometimes I get into a real funk and just can't get out of it. I hated doing what I did as JW, I hated pioneering so much but did it because that is what was drilled into me and I thought something was wrong with me for hating it so much.

I look back realized I threw my life away and it just hurts sometimes.

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When you were fully in, did you believe that you would not die?

by TTWSYF in

i know that it must seem silly to ask, but my brother and his family think that the big a will arrive before they die.

i tried to explain to my brother that everyone else who has ever lived in the past has died and only jesus has [physically] rose from the dead.. it is amazing that anyone could buy that line.

what crazy cult culture that could make people believe such nonsense?!.

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Yes, I was a born in and like stephane it was drilled into me that I would never die and I totally believed it as it was fed to me from birth on.

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Undeserved kindness

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just a side note that i found interesting and sort of upsetting, the wt that the jw's will study on sunday the 18th of september has the words undeserved kindness mentioned 50 in just 19 paragraphs.

really they need to beat it into their people that they are very worthless and do no deserve anything from god?

so much so that they use the words over and over, don't they.. lits .

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I know Data-Dog, in one of the first paragraph's they even have the audacity to say that a lot of Bible translations use the word Grace yet they keep right on using undeserved kindness, it just makes my blood boil.

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Undeserved kindness

by life is to short in

just a side note that i found interesting and sort of upsetting, the wt that the jw's will study on sunday the 18th of september has the words undeserved kindness mentioned 50 in just 19 paragraphs.

really they need to beat it into their people that they are very worthless and do no deserve anything from god?

so much so that they use the words over and over, don't they.. lits .

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Just a side note that I found interesting and sort of upsetting, the WT that the JW's will study on Sunday the 18th of September has the words undeserved kindness mentioned 50 in just 19 paragraphs. Really they need to beat it into their people that they are very worthless and do no deserve anything from God? so much so that they use the words over and over, don't they.

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